5forfighting wrote:

jc wrote: 5forfighting wrote: ThunderFan4Life wrote: jc wrote: we've already heard about your desire to "blow away" an intruder, 5for. no need to try and impress us further with your gunslinger bravado. as for me, i would definitely have a problem with someone breaking into my home. ever. any time. for any reason. however, there is nothing in this story that makes me think the kid was a danger to anyone or that killing him (or even injuring him) was necessary. shooting people before you even know the situation is EXACTLY why it is a bad idea for people to have guns in their home. with your "shoot first" attitude it is no wonder people are 43X times more likely to kill a friend or relative than an intruder. so you wuold have no problem with someone climbing through your daughter's window at 3am? shows what kind of a person you are. From a number of the statements jc has made on here, I'm guessing that he's the one crawling through the windows of 15 year old girls. calling me a child molester doesn't change the fact that a gun in the home is 43X more likely to be used to kill a friend or relative than an inturder. but, your own statements do prove how dangerous guns are in the hands of a person whose dream in life is to "blow away" someone. You know, whenever you lie like this, it removes all credibility from all of your other posts.

you can try to run away from your statments, but, in the end, you cannot hide from them. here is your direct quote about using a gun: "And, no, I wouldn't stop to ponder whether or not they had been invited by someone else in the house or not, or what their true intentions were."

fred wrote:

I don't know if I could shoot a young kid. It would probably depend on if he was straight and white or dark and gay.

pity the poor black guy dressed in drag who drunkenly mistakes fred's house for his own.

Wait, I always take pity on drunk guys. Not matter what color they are.

stoney wrote:

lets look at this scene..... It's midnight jc is headed to the fridge for a late night snack. Upstairs he hears something crash to the floor. Sneaking upstairs he opens a bedroom door and spies an intruder opening up dresser drawers. In the dark jc can see a broken lamp by the broken window this intruder came thru. Flipping on the light the intruder makes a bee line for the window but jc stops him. Holding up his hands in good jesture jc invites the guy downstairs for coffee and a sandwich not noticing his family jewels hanging out of the guys pocket. After boring the poor guy to death jc allows him to leave and promises not to call the police. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 99.9% of the rest of us walk in and beat the guy with a bat shoot to injure, and call the law and prosecute! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------so glad I am one of the 99.9%

how about this scene: stoney's kid says he is going to spend the night with a friend, but changes his mind. rather than take a chance of waking his parents by ringing the door bell he decided to crawl thru his bedroom window. now stoney has a dead child. and a lot of excuses about why he was one of the "99%".

fred wrote:

Wait, I always take pity on drunk guys. Not matter what color they are.

o.k., he's high on crack.

I don't think we have any of that in Alabama.

jc wrote:

stoney wrote: lets look at this scene..... It's midnight jc is headed to the fridge for a late night snack. Upstairs he hears something crash to the floor. Sneaking upstairs he opens a bedroom door and spies an intruder opening up dresser drawers. In the dark jc can see a broken lamp by the broken window this intruder came thru. Flipping on the light the intruder makes a bee line for the window but jc stops him. Holding up his hands in good jesture jc invites the guy downstairs for coffee and a sandwich not noticing his family jewels hanging out of the guys pocket. After boring the poor guy to death jc allows him to leave and promises not to call the police. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 99.9% of the rest of us walk in and beat the guy with a bat shoot to injure, and call the law and prosecute! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------so glad I am one of the 99.9% how about this scene: stoney's kid says he is going to spend the night with a friend, but changes his mind. rather than take a chance of waking his parents by ringing the door bell he decided to crawl thru his bedroom window. now stoney has a dead child. and a lot of excuses about why he was one of the "99%".

couldn't happen...don't have a damn door bell and window is nailed shut! Want to take another swing?

jc wrote:

5forfighting wrote: jc wrote: 5forfighting wrote: ThunderFan4Life wrote: jc wrote: we've already heard about your desire to "blow away" an intruder, 5for. no need to try and impress us further with your gunslinger bravado. as for me, i would definitely have a problem with someone breaking into my home. ever. any time. for any reason. however, there is nothing in this story that makes me think the kid was a danger to anyone or that killing him (or even injuring him) was necessary. shooting people before you even know the situation is EXACTLY why it is a bad idea for people to have guns in their home. with your "shoot first" attitude it is no wonder people are 43X times more likely to kill a friend or relative than an intruder. so you wuold have no problem with someone climbing through your daughter's window at 3am? shows what kind of a person you are. From a number of the statements jc has made on here, I'm guessing that he's the one crawling through the windows of 15 year old girls. calling me a child molester doesn't change the fact that a gun in the home is 43X more likely to be used to kill a friend or relative than an inturder. but, your own statements do prove how dangerous guns are in the hands of a person whose dream in life is to "blow away" someone. You know, whenever you lie like this, it removes all credibility from all of your other posts. you can try to run away from your statments, but, in the end, you cannot hide from them. here is your direct quote about using a gun: "And, no, I wouldn't stop to ponder whether or not they had been invited by someone else in the house or not, or what their true intentions were."

I'm not running away from anything. Your lie is saying that I want to shoot someone, as well as continually pointing to the results of a study that has been disproven.

he's living in a dream world 5---he can't help hanging on to some BS study. it happens when one loses touch with reality

jc wrote:

how about this scene: stoney's kid says he is going to spend the night with a friend, but changes his mind. rather than take a chance of waking his parents by ringing the door bell he decided to crawl thru his bedroom window. now stoney has a dead child. and a lot of excuses about why he was one of the "99%".

Congratulations... I think you may have just outdone yourself for stupidest post!

For one thing, when I was a kid, I had a key to my house so I could go right in the front door. If I changed my plans and decided to return home, my parents could expect a call explaining such. I'm sure your kids were afraid of waking the beast, but I don't think most are.

Secondly, everyone should know that you don't just go in blasting at shadows... You assess the situation and determine if force is necessary. If I catch you breaking into my house & I don't know you, there is a good chance that you're going to be shot. I'd rather shoot someone and find out that they had gotten the wrong house, than not shoot someone and have them bring harm to my family.

5forfighting wrote:

jc wrote: how about this scene: stoney's kid says he is going to spend the night with a friend, but changes his mind. rather than take a chance of waking his parents by ringing the door bell he decided to crawl thru his bedroom window. now stoney has a dead child. and a lot of excuses about why he was one of the "99%". Congratulations... I think you may have just outdone yourself for stupidest post! For one thing, when I was a kid, I had a key to my house so I could go right in the front door. If I changed my plans and decided to return home, my parents could expect a call explaining such. I'm sure your kids were afraid of waking the beast, but I don't think most are. Secondly, everyone should know that you don't just go in blasting at shadows... You assess the situation and determine if force is necessary. If I catch you breaking into my house & I don't know you, there is a good chance that you're going to be shot. I'd rather shoot someone and find out that they had gotten the wrong house, than not shoot someone and have them bring harm to my family.

stoney wrote:

jc wrote: stoney wrote: lets look at this scene..... It's midnight jc is headed to the fridge for a late night snack. Upstairs he hears something crash to the floor. Sneaking upstairs he opens a bedroom door and spies an intruder opening up dresser drawers. In the dark jc can see a broken lamp by the broken window this intruder came thru. Flipping on the light the intruder makes a bee line for the window but jc stops him. Holding up his hands in good jesture jc invites the guy downstairs for coffee and a sandwich not noticing his family jewels hanging out of the guys pocket. After boring the poor guy to death jc allows him to leave and promises not to call the police. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 99.9% of the rest of us walk in and beat the guy with a bat shoot to injure, and call the law and prosecute! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------so glad I am one of the 99.9% how about this scene: stoney's kid says he is going to spend the night with a friend, but changes his mind. rather than take a chance of waking his parents by ringing the door bell he decided to crawl thru his bedroom window. now stoney has a dead child. and a lot of excuses about why he was one of the "99%". couldn't happen...don't have a damn door bell and window is nailed shut! Want to take another swing?

i'm pretty sure you get the point. except the part about how kids can have hammers and prybars.

5forfighting wrote:

jc wrote: 5forfighting wrote: jc wrote: 5forfighting wrote: ThunderFan4Life wrote: jc wrote: we've already heard about your desire to "blow away" an intruder, 5for. no need to try and impress us further with your gunslinger bravado. as for me, i would definitely have a problem with someone breaking into my home. ever. any time. for any reason. however, there is nothing in this story that makes me think the kid was a danger to anyone or that killing him (or even injuring him) was necessary. shooting people before you even know the situation is EXACTLY why it is a bad idea for people to have guns in their home. with your "shoot first" attitude it is no wonder people are 43X times more likely to kill a friend or relative than an intruder. so you wuold have no problem with someone climbing through your daughter's window at 3am? shows what kind of a person you are. From a number of the statements jc has made on here, I'm guessing that he's the one crawling through the windows of 15 year old girls. calling me a child molester doesn't change the fact that a gun in the home is 43X more likely to be used to kill a friend or relative than an inturder. but, your own statements do prove how dangerous guns are in the hands of a person whose dream in life is to "blow away" someone. You know, whenever you lie like this, it removes all credibility from all of your other posts. you can try to run away from your statments, but, in the end, you cannot hide from them. here is your direct quote about using a gun: "And, no, I wouldn't stop to ponder whether or not they had been invited by someone else in the house or not, or what their true intentions were." I'm not running away from anything. Your lie is saying that I want to shoot someone, as well as continually pointing to the results of a study that has been disproven.

i put up a direct quote from you where you said specifically that you would shoot first and find out what was going on afterward. you absolutely did say that you wanted to "blow away" an intruder (and, no, i am not going back and reading every post of yours to find that quote). the fact that you say things like this without thinking what you are doing (and then try to deny that you siad it) is just one more indication that you do not have enough sense to have a gun. and the reason why a gun in the home is 43X more likely to be used to kill a friend or relative than an intruder.
the study isn't "disproven". it is "disliked". by gunuts. two entirely different things.

I have no dark friends. So if I only shoot dark guys, your study wouldn't matter to me or my friends and family.

5forfighting wrote:

jc wrote: how about this scene: stoney's kid says he is going to spend the night with a friend, but changes his mind. rather than take a chance of waking his parents by ringing the door bell he decided to crawl thru his bedroom window. now stoney has a dead child. and a lot of excuses about why he was one of the "99%". Congratulations... I think you may have just outdone yourself for stupidest post! For one thing, when I was a kid, I had a key to my house so I could go right in the front door. If I changed my plans and decided to return home, my parents could expect a call explaining such. I'm sure your kids were afraid of waking the beast, but I don't think most are. Secondly, everyone should know that you don't just go in blasting at shadows... You assess the situation and determine if force is necessary. If I catch you breaking into my house & I don't know you, there is a good chance that you're going to be shot. I'd rather shoot someone and find out that they had gotten the wrong house, than not shoot someone and have them bring harm to my family.

oh, so now you're changing your story. now you are saying that you would "assess the situation and determine if force is necessary" before you shoot someone. let's see, i think that is exactly what i've been saying all along. find out what is going on BEFORE you use force. thanks for finally agreeing with me.

stoney wrote:

5forfighting wrote: jc wrote: how about this scene: stoney's kid says he is going to spend the night with a friend, but changes his mind. rather than take a chance of waking his parents by ringing the door bell he decided to crawl thru his bedroom window. now stoney has a dead child. and a lot of excuses about why he was one of the "99%". Congratulations... I think you may have just outdone yourself for stupidest post! For one thing, when I was a kid, I had a key to my house so I could go right in the front door. If I changed my plans and decided to return home, my parents could expect a call explaining such. I'm sure your kids were afraid of waking the beast, but I don't think most are. Secondly, everyone should know that you don't just go in blasting at shadows... You assess the situation and determine if force is necessary. If I catch you breaking into my house & I don't know you, there is a good chance that you're going to be shot. I'd rather shoot someone and find out that they had gotten the wrong house, than not shoot someone and have them bring harm to my family.

ditto - thanks for finally agreeing with me.

fred wrote:

I have no dark friends. So if I only shoot dark guys, your study wouldn't matter to me or my friends and family.

43X! that is very bad odds, fred.

this is great! finally - we are all in agreement.
we all agree that we will consider each situation individually and specifically BEFORE we make a decision to use force in the situation and we will use force ONLY when it is necessary. we will not shoot dopey kids who pose no immediate threat to our safety, even if they are crawling thru our windows. this should reduce the 43X ratio down to much more manageable odds. we have done a great serive to our fellow americans. pat yourselves on the back.

I think you should take that study and shove it up your ass 43X...

personally.

ThunderFan4Life wrote:

I think you should take that study and shove it up your ass 43X... personally.

that would be more your thing wouldn't it.