We need a Neish.

we NEED someone with some skill & toughness. we need Olynk!!!! he could skate, shoot, & kick your ass.


Don't get me wrong. Bain has heart & Talent. we've really seen that as of late. but i think his size hurts him in the eyes of other teams. look at Pirnak from Tulsa last year. he fought Parker like 3 or 4 times. good fighter but his size didn't scare anyone.

Ramsey he was a leader, goal scorer, and meaner than a pitbull.

i don't understand how you guys can complain about how many "cones" we have for defensemen in one breath & the beg the office to sign an even slower & less talented cone then we already have. I know you just want a fighter. but don't you have to be able to catch someone before you can beat the sh!t out of them? we all saw Devo in camp last year. he was getting lapped by little old ladies with walkers for crying out loud.

instead of worrying about devo, we need to find a way to stop letting the other teams have 40 or 50 SOGs per game

Amen to that!!!

I didnt realize the shots last night were 50-27. That makes King look even worse!

Hockey Hunter wrote:

We need a Neish.

We have a Neish, in town that is. Check here. He may be keeping in somewhat hockey shape, but he's 40 years old. And yes that's Malsy on his team.

BoysInBlue wrote:

we NEED someone with some skill & toughness. we need Olynk!!!! he could skate, shoot, & kick your ass. Don't get me wrong. Bain has heart & Talent. we've really seen that as of late. but i think his size hurts him in the eyes of other teams. look at Pirnak from Tulsa last year. he fought Parker like 3 or 4 times. good fighter but his size didn't scare anyone.

I am sorry but Olynk wasn't exactly tough. To be quite honest he wasn't exactly skilled either. The bottom line is that we need someone to police the ice. Bain isn't doing that. It is a weakness in our roster right now. Devo could police the ice, sure he isn't going to score 50 goals but he would take a big step in the direction of getting that needed toughness.

Your argument of bringing in Olynk doesn't even make sense. These players are not available right now (According to your wichita thunder front office) but we do have a step in the right direction sitting in the stands watching games.

I have still yet to read from all the anti Devo posts how putting Devo on this team in place of Bain or Hanson would be a step back. I have heard people say Devo sucks...but so does Bain and Hanson. The one true opinion on here is that Devo could probably beat the shit out of everyone on the ice. That would be a nice thing to have would it not?

And I watched Devo in preseason last year. He wasn't the best skater on the ice but he didn't look that bad. Bain isn't exactly Brian Boytono out there. And once again, we wouldn't be signing the guy to skate circles around people. One of the best intimidators we have had here was Heweitt. Could not skate. Craig Johnson, couldn't skate. These guys have a job to do and they do it. Bain isn't doing that job.

What are the negatives out of giving him a spot over Bain or Hanson? Not a bunch of opinions about how Devo sucks, but compared to what Bain or Hanson bring to the table now why would Devo be a bad choice?

He would be better than a Devo, but the problem is he is more than likely a vet.

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Bain isn't exactly Brian Boytono out there

You just can't let the Brian Boytano thing go, can you? The guy wouldn't sign your K-Y. Let it go already. Good lord.

Just remember...

What Would Brian Boytono do?

Thunderfan wrote:

BoysInBlue wrote: we NEED someone with some skill & toughness. we need Olynk!!!! he could skate, shoot, & kick your ass. Don't get me wrong. Bain has heart & Talent. we've really seen that as of late. but i think his size hurts him in the eyes of other teams. look at Pirnak from Tulsa last year. he fought Parker like 3 or 4 times. good fighter but his size didn't scare anyone. I am sorry but Olynk wasn't exactly tough. To be quite honest he wasn't exactly skilled either. The bottom line is that we need someone to police the ice. Bain isn't doing that. It is a weakness in our roster right now. Devo could police the ice, sure he isn't going to score 50 goals but he would take a big step in the direction of getting that needed toughness. Your argument of bringing in Olynk doesn't even make sense. These players are not available right now (According to your wichita thunder front office) but we do have a step in the right direction sitting in the stands watching games. I have still yet to read from all the anti Devo posts how putting Devo on this team in place of Bain or Hanson would be a step back. I have heard people say Devo sucks...but so does Bain and Hanson. The one true opinion on here is that Devo could probably beat the shit out of everyone on the ice. That would be a nice thing to have would it not? And I watched Devo in preseason last year. He wasn't the best skater on the ice but he didn't look that bad. Bain isn't exactly Brian Boytono out there. And once again, we wouldn't be signing the guy to skate circles around people. One of the best intimidators we have had here was Heweitt. Could not skate. Craig Johnson, couldn't skate. These guys have a job to do and they do it. Bain isn't doing that job. What are the negatives out of giving him a spot over Bain or Hanson? Not a bunch of opinions about how Devo sucks, but compared to what Bain or Hanson bring to the table now why would Devo be a bad choice?

ok first off Olynk isn't in his 30's & he can fight with the best of them. & Laxdal kept him on a VERY short leash when it came to fighting.

& second off did you not see where i said Devo would be a cone? we already have a huge problem with other teams being able to get tou Sebass & Volper way too easy. 50 SOG last night in Tulsa. now you want to put a defenseman out there that my granny can out manouver in her hoveround with an almost dead battery? come on.... i don't care if he only skated 2 or 3 shifts per game. that's 2 or 3 shifts that might as well be power plays for the other team.

& as for the argument that other guys would be "scared" to try any cheap stuff. last year we had probably the toughest guy in the chl in Parker & i don't remember more then 3 guys who were scared of him. Dallas Anderson ran for a while intil Parker nailed him, Bansner in FT. Worth would go until Parker started running his mouth to him, goading him more & more, & that little shit Renard in Tulsa or Bossier not sure which, he'de poke & prod Duda & Clayton then RUN for the bench when Parker came on the ice. Most of the "tough guy's & pests" in the league have the same mentallity as Bain. they'll go with anyone. Pirnak? Ossuchuck?Thomas?Wildfong? none of them were scared of Parker

OLY retired 2 years ago because one he was a new father and two his hands were pretty much finished. (used up). I don't care if DEVO is 40 or 60. He brings a known fear about him on the ice.

What does Bain bring? His heart on his sleeve is about it. Everyone in the league knows he will fight and everyone knows the outcome of those fights so why would they be intimidated.

I say give Bain or Murphy the ticket outta here and give Devo at least a five game tryout. What in the hell would we loose? In the last 6 games what have either of these two contributed? NADA.

At least with DEVO on the bench and pulling the same weak shifts that Bain is getting others in the league would take notice and all the shit Clayton, Duda, and Blaz have to go thru and put up with would cease to exist because they would know if they did that Devo would be there to make them pay.

And has stated earlier our intendance would surely increase once word got out. That's how it works in the real world. Folks would come out to see destruction on the ice. With Bain, what are they coming out to see?

A kid with a lot of heart who is willing to go but really can't fill the shoes of a legit bruiser.

stoney wrote:

At least with DEVO on the bench and pulling the same weak shifts that Bain is getting others in the league would take notice and all the shit Clayton, Duda, and Blaz have to go thru and put up with would cease to exist because they would know if they did that Devo would be there to make them pay. .

& again i say he has to be able to catch them before he can beat the crap out of them. coachs walk to the bench faster then he can skate

BoysInBlue wrote:

stoney wrote: At least with DEVO on the bench and pulling the same weak shifts that Bain is getting others in the league would take notice and all the shit Clayton, Duda, and Blaz have to go thru and put up with would cease to exist because they would know if they did that Devo would be there to make them pay. . & again i say he has to be able to catch them before he can beat the crap out of them. coachs walk to the bench faster then he can skate

There's always face offs......

BoysInBlue wrote:

stoney wrote: At least with DEVO on the bench and pulling the same weak shifts that Bain is getting others in the league would take notice and all the shit Clayton, Duda, and Blaz have to go thru and put up with would cease to exist because they would know if they did that Devo would be there to make them pay. . & again i say he has to be able to catch them before he can beat the crap out of them. coachs walk to the bench faster then he can skate

How far did Fleck chase Clayton to get him?????

There is always the faceoff drop the puck and then drop the gloves

FyrFytr86 wrote:

BoysInBlue wrote: stoney wrote: At least with DEVO on the bench and pulling the same weak shifts that Bain is getting others in the league would take notice and all the shit Clayton, Duda, and Blaz have to go thru and put up with would cease to exist because they would know if they did that Devo would be there to make them pay. . & again i say he has to be able to catch them before he can beat the crap out of them. coachs walk to the bench faster then he can skate How far did Fleck chase Clayton to get him????? There is always the faceoff drop the puck and then drop the gloves

but if he is going to scare the crap out of the other team they will just take off & do what ever they want to do. he would have to jump them on a face off & that carries extra minutes( I.E. instigator). we have all been talking all season long about how the speed of the game is really getting to the older guys like Duda & Clayton. They practice everyday, play 3 or 4 nights a week & still barley keep up. you can't tell me that a guy in his 30's that hasn't seen competitive hockey in years can keep up with the speed of the game now. I don't argue the fact that Devo would kick some serious ass. the guy is an animal. but i still think he would hurt more then help. & if we are only going to give him a 5 game tryout, whats to say every one behaves until he's gone? just really does seem like a waste of time to me

BoysInBlue wrote:

FyrFytr86 wrote: BoysInBlue wrote: stoney wrote: At least with DEVO on the bench and pulling the same weak shifts that Bain is getting others in the league would take notice and all the shit Clayton, Duda, and Blaz have to go thru and put up with would cease to exist because they would know if they did that Devo would be there to make them pay. . & again i say he has to be able to catch them before he can beat the crap out of them. coachs walk to the bench faster then he can skate How far did Fleck chase Clayton to get him????? There is always the faceoff drop the puck and then drop the gloves but if he is going to scare the crap out of the other team they will just take off & do what ever they want to do. he would have to jump them on a face off & that carries extra minutes( I.E. instigator). we have all been talking all season long about how the speed of the game is really getting to the older guys like Duda & Clayton. They practice everyday, play 3 or 4 nights a week & still barley keep up. you can't tell me that a guy in his 30's that hasn't seen competitive hockey in years can keep up with the speed of the game now. I don't argue the fact that Devo would kick some serious ass. the guy is an animal. but i still think he would hurt more then help. & if we are only going to give him a 5 game tryout, whats to say every one behaves until he's gone? just really does seem like a waste of time to me

Okay what do you suggest?

Continue to let these teams beat the hell out of our stars and do nothing, or wait until the front office finds this mystery tough guy that I am not sure they are even looking for.

I don't even want to hear give them some more time. Hell they have had three freakin years.

hell Im not so sure getting devo would be much of a downgrade if any from parker last year. I agree with fyr..this bullshit about give em more time to find somebody.... This is gonna get someone on the Thunder put out of hockey for good or else cause them to seriously think about retireing or going else where to play next year. The only waste right now seems to be the effort of the front office ot get some toughness in here.

FyrFytr86 wrote:

BoysInBlue wrote: FyrFytr86 wrote: BoysInBlue wrote: stoney wrote: At least with DEVO on the bench and pulling the same weak shifts that Bain is getting others in the league would take notice and all the shit Clayton, Duda, and Blaz have to go thru and put up with would cease to exist because they would know if they did that Devo would be there to make them pay. . & again i say he has to be able to catch them before he can beat the crap out of them. coachs walk to the bench faster then he can skate How far did Fleck chase Clayton to get him????? There is always the faceoff drop the puck and then drop the gloves but if he is going to scare the crap out of the other team they will just take off & do what ever they want to do. he would have to jump them on a face off & that carries extra minutes( I.E. instigator). we have all been talking all season long about how the speed of the game is really getting to the older guys like Duda & Clayton. They practice everyday, play 3 or 4 nights a week & still barley keep up. you can't tell me that a guy in his 30's that hasn't seen competitive hockey in years can keep up with the speed of the game now. I don't argue the fact that Devo would kick some serious ass. the guy is an animal. but i still think he would hurt more then help. & if we are only going to give him a 5 game tryout, whats to say every one behaves until he's gone? just really does seem like a waste of time to me Okay what do you suggest? Continue to let these teams beat the hell out of our stars and do nothing, or wait until the front office finds this mystery tough guy that I am not sure they are even looking for. I don't even want to hear give them some more time. Hell they have had three freakin years.

I just think he'll do more harm to the chemistry of our team then good. The guys last year in camp talked about how we was poison in the locker room. that was why Laxdal cut him before our exhibition game with Topeka last year.

The guys last year in camp talked about how we was poison in the locker room. that was why Laxdal cut him before our exhibition game with Topeka last year.



Ok see now there is a valid reason for not brining him in.