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 PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 3:57 am 

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Joe Blaznek

Hey, I had to miss my first game of the season tonight. What did Blaznek do in the 3rd to get all those penalties. He usually keeps his cool rather well. Just curious, thanks...

 
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 PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 6:35 am 

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it all started with a BS hooking call. He was racing for the puck beat the ft worth guy, blaz was moving in for the shot and official blew the whistle and called hooking. then Blaz must have lit into the ref and got the abuse call, then once in the box and still mouthing off he threw the drink bucket out on the ice. Receiving the gamer and another unsportsmanlike call.

 
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 PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 6:48 am 

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From where we were sitting, the main reason it looked like a BS call to us was because his stick was on the puck the whole time. Did the ref just call the hooking really late, or was he seeing things?

 
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 PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 8:37 am 

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I personally think he called it late because Joe was on a breakaway. Had he not been on his way to a goal I don't think the ref was going to call it.I can almost say that he was trying to do the right thing by not wanting to be a factor in the game but he couldn't let a penalty Blaz committed lead to a goal either.

 
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Thunder101 wrote:
.I can almost say that he was trying to do the right thing by not wanting to be a factor in the game but he couldn't let a penalty Blaz committed lead to a goal either.


only problem is it technicly shouldn't have been a penelty. Blaz never stopped moving his feet & the way the new rules say, if your feet are still moving & your not using the opposing player as your sole means of acceleration, it's not hooking unless you pull him down. the other guy dropped after blaz passed him. if ever there was a time for a diving call......

 
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 PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:39 am 

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From where we were sitting it looked like the right call. The Fort Worth player had the position and Blaz used his stick to slow the other player down from the puck and sling shot arround him. Blaz has to keep his cool in that position and not put us short handed for 6 minutes.

Even though his feet were still moving he used his stick to hook the other player and keep him from controlling the puck. Like it or not i think the right call was made since Blaz would have been on a breakaway had the penality not been called.

 
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brian-27 wrote:
Like it or not i think the right call was made since Blaz would have been on a breakaway had the penality not been called.


if that is true then why was it a "no call" the 20 or 30 times they did it to Blaz when HE was breaking into their zone?

 
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 PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:00 am 

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There was no question that there was a change of momentum between Blaz and the Fort Worth player on that call. Blaz is fast but he can't accelerate arround a player like he did without using his stick to get the momwntum and to slow the other player.

As far as the rest of the game, the officiating has been suspect the entire season. On that call however i think the right call was made.

 
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 PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:13 am 

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Joe was obviously 10000% pissed after that call was made.

If he was really guilty of the hook, do you think he would have grandstanded like that? Any other penalty he has taken, he's went straight to the box.

I think it was a BS call.

 
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 PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:18 am 

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BS call or not, while the display was entertaining it lead to a goal on the man advantage. No matter how good a team is, it is almost impossible to kill off a 6-minute penalty without giving something up.

 
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Joe Blaznek

Being a veteran, I think his actions were a little too much. Take the 2 minute hooking penalty, sit down, cool off, and let the PK Team kill it off. Then get back on the ice and score.

When Joe started getting in the face of the ref, I knew he was going to get 4 and THEN when he threw the bucket, his night was over. I hope Coach French chewed his ass out. That actually could have cost us the game.

And yes, I am a huge Blaznek fan, never thought I would see him react this way to a penalty call. The last few games he has become less passive and more aggressive....Wonder what the change is all about.

HMMMM, maybe well even see Joe fight this season.

 
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 PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:54 am 

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The last few games he has become less passive and more aggressive....Wonder what the change is all about.


someone has to get more agressive noone else seems to want to do it.

Blaz, Duda, and Clayton seem to be carrying this team right now and soon they will be worn out and we have nothing left.

It is time for the rest of them (Kuntz, Murphy, Mac Millin, Fairbarn, Hansen) and some of the rest to sack up and start playing this "relentless in your face style of hockey that French was talking about"

 
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 PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 11:32 am 

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McMillan was one of the best players on the ice for the Thunder last night. And the hook call on Blaznek was legit. He should have kept his cool, but hey--at least when he threw the bucket of pucks they didn't spill out all over the ice...

 
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 PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 6:40 pm 

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It looked like a legit hooking call to me. The problem I had with it is that it looked identical to a play that happened earlier in the game, when FtWorth got called for a hook, and we got a dive. Lack of consistency is what set off the whole episode.

 
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 PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 6:52 pm 

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BoysInBlue wrote:
brian-27 wrote:
Like it or not i think the right call was made since Blaz would have been on a breakaway had the penality not been called.


if that is true then why was it a "no call" the 20 or 30 times they did it to Blaz when HE was breaking into their zone?


Because of the position of the stick. Blaz had his stick up near the shoulders. Take off the Gdogg and some of you will get some of these calls. The ref is not going to call the penalty until the offender, or his teammates, touch the puck. Therefore the perceived lateness of the call.

 
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 PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:25 pm 

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I think back to back games with Depuydt was to much. French had a little melt down as well.

 
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 PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:28 pm 

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It's rumored that DePuydt is Frenchy's favorite ref. Bloos

 
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The call on Blaznek for the initial hook was textbook. He interfered with Hartinger, which caused Blaznek to gain the advantage and get the puck. The whistle shouldn't blow until we touch the puck.

I think there was a screwup on the six munite minor, I've never seen that before. Joe got, in order, 2 for the hook, 2 for unsportsmanlike for yelling at DePuydt, 10 misconduct for throwing the bucket, then another two for abuse for throwing the water bottle. The last two should have been a game misconduct, which would have given the Thunder four minute's to kill, not six, with Blaznek gone with the gamer.

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 PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 11:14 pm 

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The call on Blaznek for the initial hook was textbook. He interfered with Hartinger, which caused Blaznek to gain the advantage and get the puck. The whistle shouldn't blow until we touch the puck.

I think there was a screwup on the six munite minor, I've never seen that before. Joe got, in order, 2 for the hook, 2 for unsportsmanlike for yelling at DePuydt, 10 misconduct for throwing the bucket, then another two for abuse for throwing the water bottle. The last two should have been a game misconduct, which would have given the Thunder four minute's to kill, not six, with Blaznek gone with the gamer.

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Nope.

 
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