National Championship (yeah, I said it)

Below is from www.nahl.com :

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ROUND 1 – DIVISION SEMI-FINAL SERIES Teams are seeded within their own division based upon their finish in the final 2005-06 NAHL regular season standings. If necessary, the tie-breaking policy in the NAHL Rules and Regulations will be applied to determine teams’ order of finish. The team seeded first in each division shall compete in a series of games against the team seeded fourth in the same division and the team seeded second in each division shall compete in a series of games against the team seeded third in the same division. (Note - If Fairbanks and Wasilla qualify for West Division playoff competition, they may compete in a series of games against each other during Round 1 regardless of seeding if the other two West Division teams which qualify for playoff competition agree to compete in a series of games against each other.) Round 1 playoff competition may begin no earlier than Wednesday March 29, 2006 and must conclude no later than Sunday April 9, 2006. Teams shall cooperate to schedule division semi-final series competition. The team seeded higher in each division semi-final series shall have the right to host a minimum of three (3) Round 1 games. The team seeded lower in each division semi-final series must be able to host a minimum of two (2) Round 1 games. The NAHL executive committee shall determine the schedule of Round 1 playoff competition in any series of games where there is not mutual agreement between the competing clubs. The first team to win three (3) games in a division semi-final series shall be declared the winner of the series and advance to the next round of playoff competition. The first team to lose three (3) games in a division semi-final series shall be eliminated from further playoff competition. ROUND 2 – DIVISION FINAL SERIES Teams that win a division semi-final series shall be re-seeded within their own division based upon their finish in the final 2005-06 NAHL regular season standings. If necessary, the tie-breaking policy in the NAHL Rules and Regulations will be applied to determine teams’ order of finish. The two (2) teams in each division which won a division semi-final series shall compete in a series of games against each other. Round 2 playoff competition may begin no earlier than Wednesday April 12, 2006 and conclude no later than Sunday April 30, 2006. Teams shall cooperate to schedule division final series competition. The team seeded higher in each division final series shall have the right to host a minimum of four (4) Round 2 games. The team seeded lower in each division final series must be able to host a minimum of three (3) Round 2 games. The NAHL executive committee shall determine the schedule of Round 2 playoff competition in any series of games where there is not mutual agreement between the competing clubs. The first team to win four (4) games in a division final series shall be declared the winner of the series and advance to the next Round of playoff competition. The first team to lose four (4) games in a division final series shall be eliminated from further playoff competition. ROUND 3 – ROBERTSON CUP NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP TOURNAMENT The four (4) teams that win a division final series shall compete in the Robertson Cup Championship Tournament as division representatives along with Mahoning Valley. (Note – If Mahoning Valley wins the division final series of the North Division, the team that lost the division final series of the North Division shall also qualify to compete in the Robertson Cup Championship Tournament as the representative of the North Division.) The four (4) division representatives competing in the Robertson Cup Championship Tournament shall be seeded based upon their finish in the final 2005-06 NAHL regular season standings. If necessary, the tie-breaking policy in the NAHL Rules and Regulations will be applied to determine the teams’ order of finish. The home team for each game during Robertson Cup Championship Tournament competition shall be determined by the teams’ finish in the final 2005-06 NAHL regular season standings with the higher ranking team declared the home team. If necessary, the tie-breaking policy in the NAHL Rules and Regulations will be applied to determine the teams’ order of finish. ROBERTSON CUP CHAMPIONSHIP TOURNAMENT SCHEDULE (Note – The dates listed below may be adjusted slightly.) Tuesday May 9, 2006 Teams arrive. Teams practice. Banquet of Champions Wednesday May 10, 2006 Game 1 - 4th Seed vs. 1st Seed Game 2 – 3rd Seed vs. 2nd Seed Thursday May 11, 2006 Game 3 – Loser of Game 1 vs. Loser of Game 2 Game 4 – Lower Seed of Winner of Game 1 and Winner of Game 2 vs. Mahoning Valley (Note – Loser of Game 3 is eliminated from further Robertson Cup Championship Tournament competition.) Friday May 12, 2006 Game 5 Winner of Game 3 vs. Winner of Game 4 Game 6 Higher Seed of Winner of Game 1 and Winner of Game 2 vs. Loser of Game 4 (Note - Whichever of Game 5 or Game 6 that has Mahoning Valley as one of the competing clubs shall be the second game to be played on this day.) Saturday May 13, 2006 Game 7 (Third Place Game) – Loser of Game 5 vs. Loser of Game 6 Game 8 (Robertson Cup Championship Game) Winner of Game 5 vs. Winner of Game 6 Sunday May 14, 2006 Teams depart. Below is the official format for the 2005 Robertson Cup Playoffs and the exclusive NAHL.com coverage of the 2005 Robertson Cup Tournament in Bismarck, North Dakota, which featured the host team Bismarck Bobcats, the Fargo-Moorhead Jets, the Soo Indians and the defending champion Texas Tornado, who eventually won the tournament to repeat as NAHL champs.

Alright, I got a question.

If five teams make it to the Robertson Cup yaddy yaddy, like they state, how can their schedule work like they have listed?

Am I confused, or is there some sort of mistake?

bp

I drew up the brackets for this thing. It looks like the web of cables behind my computer, but I guess it works.

Nevermind....

It aint nothing but a clusterfuck....

Not only does MVY get to host, they get a bye, plus they get the late games.

Kinda shitty, if you ask me.

bp

By the way, the NAHL needs to do away with all the divisional shit, and seed the top eight teams and go from there....

bp

While I am not often in agreement with Mr. Patrol, I concur with his latest post.

While I am thrilled so many fine young men have the opportunity to compete in the NAHL playoffs, I would suggest so many teams make the tournament, it dilutes the achievement.

If that was the case, the following teams would be in the playoffs:

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SEED   TEAM 1   yBozeman 2   xTexas 3   xTexarkana 4   xUSNTDP 5   xCleveland 6   xSouthern Minnesota 7   xMahoning Valley 8   xFargo-Moorhead

The matchups would be BOZ vs FMH, TXS vs MVY, TXK vs SME, USNDTP vs CLE.

A lot more interesting, also. While looking at the above info, I noticed the second WORST team in the NAHL is going to the playoffs. There is something wrong with that...

bp

MV getting a bye is kind of weak. If anyone should get a bye it should be Bozeman.

Glad somebody weighed in. Was tired of seeing BP talk to himself. I couldn't answer cause the seeding and brackets gave me a headache.

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By the way, the NAHL needs to do away with all the divisional shit, and seed the top eight teams and go from there....

Have to somewhat agree with you on this BP. Either as you suggest or take only the top two teams from each division. As it is now there will be 4 and could be possibly as many as 6 teams in the playoffs with records below .500%.

Taking all but 4 teams into the playoffs seems a bit much. If they are going to do that they should just use the regular season as a method to determine seeding and then have divisional tourneys to decide the 4 teams moving to Nationals. Oops sorry I forgot we can't call it "Nationals" anymore, the Robertson Cup Tournament.

First, they should divide the divisions into two conferences. Play 8 games against teams in your division, 4 intra-conference not in your division, and 6 inter-conference. Then take the top 4 teams in each conference. 1 vs 4, 2 vs 3, best-of-five to get to the final four. From there, I'd like a best-of-7 the rest of the way, but since the NAHL insists on tournament-style playoff, I'd go with a simple double-elimiation for the championship.

The way I mapped it, if you lose in the first round, you still have a shot at the championship. If you win in the first round and lose the next game, you're out.

I don't have a problem with MVP getting a bye or playing the late game in order to draw fans. Correct me if I am wrong but I think that they are paying all travel expenses for the teams to attend. If that is the case you want to put your franchise in a position to draw as many local fans as possible, to offset expenses, and it seems to me that you would not draw many fans for the home team if they played in the afternoon. As a general rule I would think that the majority of fans in attendence will be MVP fans.
I know, I know there were those of us that followed our teams to Bismark but the bulk of fans were from the Bismark area. Unless you were there you can't believe the difference in attendence between afternoon and evening games. Oh by the way the Bobcats played each evening, and if I remember they were a sub 500 team, last season.

Thats all fine and dandy, but why seed the other four teams and then let MVP play the winners?

By the way, I find it hard to beleive that MVP will be paying the other teams travel expenses. But, I could be wrong.

If that is the case, they are gonna have to draw a little more than the 472 fans they are averaging.

bp

Captain Bandit wrote:

Glad somebody weighed in. Was tired of seeing BP talk to himself. I couldn't answer cause the seeding and brackets gave me a headache.

It's kind of fun watching him do that, he is very good at it...

TornadoWarning wrote:

Quote: By the way, the NAHL needs to do away with all the divisional shit, and seed the top eight teams and go from there.... Have to somewhat agree with you on this BP. Either as you suggest or take only the top two teams from each division. As it is now there will be 4 and could be possibly as many as 6 teams in the playoffs with records below .500%. Taking all but 4 teams into the playoffs seems a bit much. If they are going to do that they should just use the regular season as a method to determine seeding and then have divisional tourneys to decide the 4 teams moving to Nationals. Oops sorry I forgot we can't call it "Nationals" anymore, the Robertson Cup Tournament.

Not calling it the "Nationals" anymore is a bunch of shit. These teams come from all over the Nation, it should be call the National Championship and the winner gets the Robertson Cup.

Prediction: If the Tornado win it and call themselves National Champions, every Wildcat and Bandit fan in the country will say "no you're not! The arena didn't have enough seats!"

GR Goon wrote:

Prediction: If the Tornado win it and call themselves National Champions, every Wildcat and Bandit fan in the country will say "no you're not! The arena didn't have enough seats!"

GR Goon wrote:

Prediction: If the Tornado win it and call themselves National Champions, every Wildcat and Bandit fan in the country will say "no you're not! The arena didn't have enough seats!"

Actually, your statement is wrong. In more ways than one.

bp

GR Goon wrote:

Prediction: If the Tornado win it and call themselves National Champions, every Wildcat and Bandit fan in the country will say "no you're not! The arena didn't have enough seats!"

That has to be one of the most idiotic statements I've seen you post.