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 PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 9:43 am 

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Texas Vs. Texarkana Games this weekend.....

Predicitions for this weekend's Games in Texarkana

Mine - In not-so-breaking news, it looks like Miles Williams will be getting the next five starts (and Coop is bringing in a back-up for him)....

Over/Under on Goals this weekend is 18.5. (TEXAS)

Over/Under on PIMs this weekend is 202. (TEXAS)

Texarkana's offense needs to keep it up, and STAY OUT OF THE DAMN PENALTY BOX.....Defense, well, thats a given.....

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Re: Texas Vs. Texarkana Games this weekend.....

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Predicitions for this weekend's Games in Texarkana

Mine - In not-so-breaking news, it looks like Miles Williams will be getting the next five starts (and Coop is bringing in a back-up for him)....



Yeah, I talked to Riley last nite at the party. And to correct myself to some Bandit fans, Riley is out until school starts up the 16th. He's eligible to play the rest of the season, but he actually has to be attending classes. Since classes don't start until then, he can't play.

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So Gill wont be in net against Texas? I obviously have missed something (I know...not surprising).

Can you provide a little more info for me?

 
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Sounds like some "technical" crap to me, but if it is the rule, it is the rule. And, I may not have all of the information, but I just can't see punishing a team because of the date that classes begin at the local college. Looks to me like Riley should be put on some kind of eligibility probation and be allowed to play with the understanding that he must take college classes to be eligible. If he doesn't, then he becomes ineligible and the Bandits would have to forfeit the games between January 1 and the day that he officialy becomes ineligible.

That is just my My 2 Cents

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Riley turned 21 on Jan. 1. From the way Riley explained it to me, even though he was underage when the season started, and is eligible to finish out the season, he has to actually be *attending* classes in order to be eligible to play according the NCAA rules. His classes don't start until the 16th.

Does that clear it up?

 
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Sounds like some "technical" crap to me, but if it is the rule, it is the rule. And, I may not have all of the information, but I just can't see punishing a team because of the date that classes begin at the local college.


So it's a league rule that the guys can't play if classes aren't in session due to semester break at the school they attend?

It doens't sound like crap of the "technical" sort to me. That's just plain CRAP.

 
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So it's an NCAA thing, not an NAHL thing?

 
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Sounds like some "technical" crap to me, but if it is the rule, it is the rule. And, I may not have all of the information, but I just can't see punishing a team because of the date that classes begin at the local college.


So it's a league rule that the guys can't play if classes aren't in session due to semester break at the school they attend?

It doens't sound like crap of the "technical" sort to me. That's just plain CRAP.


C'mon, Princess...using your logic, then all rules are CRAP...complete anarchy, that's what I say. Also, notice the NCAA is involved and they throw a wrench into everything.

 
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I am sure Riley's situation falls somewhere within this explanation.......

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Some of the most frequently asked "Ask the Vet" questions that we receive regarding NCAA Division I rules have to do with what does and what does not compromise a player's eligibility. It is of course imperative that we as players educate ourselves on what will and will not affect our eligibility and for that reason, we felt that it was time to include an article on PlayYourGame.com that deals with the uncertainty surrounding the NCAA eligibility rules. We hope that this article clears up any questions that you may have now, or in the future.

As a hockey player interested in pursuing the NCAA (Division I) as a playing option, especially with regards to obtaining a scholarship, two of most important rulings that you need to be aware of are the following:

14.2.1 Five-Year Rule - A student-athlete shall complete his or her seasons of participation within five calendar years from the beginning of the semester or quarter in which the student-athlete first registered for a minimum full-time program of studies in a collegiate institution, with time spent in the armed services, on official church missions or with recognized foreign aid services of the U.S. government being excepted. For foreign students, service in the armed forces or on an official church mission of the student's home country is considered equivalent to such service in the United States.

14.2.3.5 Participation after 21st Birthday - Any participation as an individual or a team representative in organized sports competition by a student during each 12-month period after the student's 21st birthday and prior to initial full-time enrollment in a collegiate institution shall count as one year of varsity competition in that sport. Participation in organized competition during time spent in the U.S. armed services shall be excepted.

To summarize the Five-Year rule, enrolling at college or university full time begins your five-year eligibility clock. For a player aiming at the NCAA, full-time enrolment could make them less attractive to schools/coaches recruiting future talent - by thus having less years to work with the player. For the most part, players that want to continue schooling while playing out their junior will attend as part-time students. This allows them to keep the edge on their studies while also being able to balance the rigors of playing junior hockey all the while keeping their NCAA eligibility intact.

The second rule above may or may not be an issue for some players. In some cases, a player will turn 21 during their last year of junior. If so, a player cannot continue playing once their 21st birthday occurs if they are inline for the NCAA the following season. If they do continue to play, the player will lose a year of eligibility - again something that most coaches aren't that keen on when recruiting a prospective athlete.


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1 Cool Pucker wrote:
I am sure Riley's situation falls somewhere within this explanation.......

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Some of the most frequently asked "Ask the Vet" questions that we receive regarding NCAA Division I rules have to do with what does and what does not compromise a player's eligibility. It is of course imperative that we as players educate ourselves on what will and will not affect our eligibility and for that reason, we felt that it was time to include an article on PlayYourGame.com that deals with the uncertainty surrounding the NCAA eligibility rules. We hope that this article clears up any questions that you may have now, or in the future.

As a hockey player interested in pursuing the NCAA (Division I) as a playing option, especially with regards to obtaining a scholarship, two of most important rulings that you need to be aware of are the following:

14.2.1 Five-Year Rule - A student-athlete shall complete his or her seasons of participation within five calendar years from the beginning of the semester or quarter in which the student-athlete first registered for a minimum full-time program of studies in a collegiate institution, with time spent in the armed services, on official church missions or with recognized foreign aid services of the U.S. government being excepted. For foreign students, service in the armed forces or on an official church mission of the student's home country is considered equivalent to such service in the United States.

14.2.3.5 Participation after 21st Birthday - Any participation as an individual or a team representative in organized sports competition by a student during each 12-month period after the student's 21st birthday and prior to initial full-time enrollment in a collegiate institution shall count as one year of varsity competition in that sport. Participation in organized competition during time spent in the U.S. armed services shall be excepted.

To summarize the Five-Year rule, enrolling at college or university full time begins your five-year eligibility clock. For a player aiming at the NCAA, full-time enrolment could make them less attractive to schools/coaches recruiting future talent - by thus having less years to work with the player. For the most part, players that want to continue schooling while playing out their junior will attend as part-time students. This allows them to keep the edge on their studies while also being able to balance the rigors of playing junior hockey all the while keeping their NCAA eligibility intact.

The second rule above may or may not be an issue for some players. In some cases, a player will turn 21 during their last year of junior. If so, a player cannot continue playing once their 21st birthday occurs if they are inline for the NCAA the following season. If they do continue to play, the player will lose a year of eligibility - again something that most coaches aren't that keen on when recruiting a prospective athlete.


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if he has to wait for class to be in session doesn't that go for everyone. I mean wouldn't there be some lead way for school being closed due to hollidays?? so i guess if another school break comes up he becomes unable to play again?

 
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Also, notice the NCAA is involved and they throw a wrench into everything.


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zambonigrl79 wrote:
if he has to wait for class to be in session doesn't that go for everyone. I mean wouldn't there be some lead way for school being closed due to hollidays?? so i guess if another school break comes up he becomes unable to play again?


How many 21 year olds are playing in the NAHL?

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It makes no sense to penalize a team and a player because the local schools haven't started yet. If he is enrolled and registered, shouldn't that be enough until classes start?

 
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Billetmom wrote:
If he is enrolled and registered


Is he?

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BorderPatrol wrote:
Billetmom wrote:
If he is enrolled and registered


Is he?

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He wasn't clear about that. Guess we can ask him Friday. All he told me was about classes not starting until the 16th.

I posed the question to Mr. Know-It-All in an IM earlier. His reaction was that maybe the question was not asked correctly to the ncaa and that's why Riley got that answer. Anyway, he's going to ask his wife, who is way up on ncaa rules and stuff and let us (me) know.

 
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Moe Bandits wrote:
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Billetmom wrote:
If he is enrolled and registered


Is he?

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He wasn't clear about that. Guess we can ask him Friday. All he told me was about classes not starting until the 16th.

I posed the question to Mr. Know-It-All in an IM earlier. His reaction was that maybe the question was not asked correctly to the ncaa and that's why Riley got that answer. Anyway, he's going to ask his wife, who is way up on ncaa rules and stuff and let us (me) know.


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Thanks for the info Moe.....Hopefull this is all a big misunderstanding.....

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If he was enrolled in the fall semester 05 then he is still considered a student. I wonder if that is the problem. I wonder if he took the fall semester off. I am not sure which school he is planning on attending but they should have early registration. He needs to register early! Tell that boy to get his butt down there tomorrow morning and become a STUDENT!!! Hell...find an online college and do it that way!!!!!

We want him in net against the TT. I have never seen Williams and he may very well be able to handle it but I think people would feel better with Gill especially against the TT!!!

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Hey, Moe, your it....

Nuts, I think 90% of the fans have full faith in Miles. He has shown a lot of promise....but this is the TT, and it would be nice to have Gill....

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