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Who should go first.

Presson

14%

[ 3 ]

French

61%

[ 13 ]

Joel

23%

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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 6:59 pm

FyrFytr86

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WOW I've been reading the "Other" board

What a bunch of suckass bullshit they are posting.

Give the coach time.

Chief is spinning the bullshit again. I'll bet he won't come over here and spread that bullshit.

"French is working very very very hard this week to get some new players" WTF has he been doing all damn year. According to Chief he has been working players since the start and I ain't seen shit except for other teams discards.

Lets face it this deadbeat coach is an emotionless, no nothing piece of a coach that was a discard himself.

I said that and everyone knows who I am and where they can contact me. I'll say the same damn thing too anyone at any damn time.

This guy either has a cancer in his locker room or he is the cancer in his locker room and he does not have the nuts to deal with it.

After this year and the way he has handled this problem and players wanting to be traded, no one will want to play here next year, and I can't say as I would blame them.

Also as far as I am concerned Presson you are the place where the buck stops, but I guess all you are worried about is the fact that the buck is there, not how it gets there. You better deal with this problem or you will not have a team at all next year.

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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:25 pm

The Chief Spin Doctor

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Wow Fyr...maybe you should check things before you post...I think I posted something here about 2 hours ago. Looks like I have your vote. Whatever. I thought I always treated you with extreme courtesy and class?? Who gets more inside info from me on the GR than you? Hell Ill just vote for myself too ok.

I really love how we go 17-1-3 at home...best in the CHL...and then lose two home games in a row and we suck all the sudden! Do I think French is doing a good job. Hell yes. Barker alone is a D-man many ECHL teams tried and couldnt get. Two home losses in a row and all of the sudden we have cancer in the locker room, must be asbestos.

The way he handles player asking for trades huh? Keep believing the rumors. Hey Fyr go thru the CHL rosters and find me all the top notch QUALITY signings CHL teams have made after the start of the season.
It doesnt even reach double digits, but of course there are so many avaialable players out there.

Great home record, second best attendance in the CHL, still one of the CHLs best teams...yeah why would anyone wanna play here? ~End Spin

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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:40 pm

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I'm not ready to give blame yet. Since French came on so late i'll give him longer.

Chief- Yes he does spin things but that's almost his job. He probably wants to bring in the right players to win a championship as much as anyone. For Thunder fans hockey is a hobby. But for Chief it's his profession. I admire the passion he shows and wish I had that passion for my job. Not kissing your ass chief. Just saying how I see it.

Presson- Don't know him or never met him. He's doing a good job putting fans in the seats, but the on ice talent isn't there. Fix it!

Coach- I also wish he would show more emotion on the bench. I don't care if that's his style or not.

On most things that Fyfr said I agree with just not that harsh quite yet. Almost there though. Another game like against Tulsa I'll be there.

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:42 pm

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Chief I love your passion!

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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:44 pm

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The Chief Spin Doctor wrote:

Wow Fyr...maybe you should check things before you post...I think I posted something here about 2 hours ago. Looks like I have your vote. Whatever. I thought I always treated you with extreme courtesy and class?? Who gets more inside info from me on the GR than you? Hell Ill just vote for myself too ok.

I really love how we go 17-1-3 at home...best in the CHL...and then lose two home games in a row and we suck all the sudden! Do I think French is doing a good job. Hell yes. Barker alone is a D-man many ECHL teams tried and couldnt get. Two home losses in a row and all of the sudden we have cancer in the locker room, must be asbestos.

The way he handles player asking for trades huh? Keep believing the rumors. Hey Fyr go thru the CHL rosters and find me all the top notch QUALITY signings CHL teams have made after the start of the season.
It doesnt even reach double digits, but of course there are so many avaialable players out there.

Great home record, second best attendance in the CHL, still one of the CHLs best teams...yeah why would anyone wanna play here? ~End Spin

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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:50 pm

The Chief Spin Doctor

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Rajans blog

--- I'm sure Rosco wasn't too happy about blowing a 2-0 lead after eight minutes and losing at Shreveport. Wonder if he was looking for a car rental place afterward. Also, plenty of bad blood at the end and words exchanged afterward on Roy Lang's blog.

-- Impressive win for Lubbock at Colorado after Dashney's pointed remarks on Friday night.

-- Can anyone figure out Amarillo? Collapse at Corpus on Thursday, big win at Rio on Friday and then Austin has them down 3-0 by the game's midpoint on Saturday. Like the Rayz, the Bats put the clamps on Hahn after the Bees let him and Wray run wild.

Posted by Greg Rajan on February 11, 2006 10:52 PM

No mincing words

Some interesting postgame comments from a couple of CHL coaches after their teams' games on Friday:

Chris Dashney:

"We had been playing really well, and somewhere along the way in the last two days, it all went south on us. We just didn't compete. We were getting knocked off the puck, we didn't hit them at all and we only hit when it was convenient for us. That was as thorough a beating as you'll find in this league. . . . Give credit where credit's due. Tulsa came in here and, boy, we were out-coached, outplayed, everything."

Tracy Egeland:

"That's the toughest loss I've ever had. I'm kind of dumbfounded considering they're the team that played (Thursday) night. You get a goal a minute into the third and … they're doing it their way and they're losing. It's not everybody, but when we play our game plan, we're successful. We're making mistakes on little things that are turning around for goals for them."

Hey look other teams had a bad weekend!? Colorado lost at home to Lubbock too. Asutin lost at home today to Youngstown and had no penalty minutes.

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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:55 pm

FyrFytr86

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Chief I am the one that posted what was there and I will stand by it.

How many times have I heard we are working on someone from Euorpe, we have a big guy in the wings, we are working on this we are working on that and it seems that all we end up with are rejects from other teams.

By your own and the coaches and Pressoen's for that matter we need some size and toughness. You know what I would not care if we had to push the guy out on the ice if he could kick someone's ass.

You have been told of two or three players that would play here but the excuse was they come out of retirement, or we won't trade unless it is an upgrade. To all that I say crap. Anything for Bain would be an upgrade so why do we wait for 6 weeks?

The one that I told you about you said he just came out of retirement, bullshit he has been in pro hockey 3 years and he was 26 years old. Oh well Ft. Worth sigend him and he would have played for the minimum.

At least he would have been a player that could play his regular shift instead of paying and player to set the bench.

You know and I know that there are several players on this team that want out. Well why would that be. I would suggest that we have to many players playing for the back of their jerseys instead of the front.

As for info that is a joke, I do appreiciate what you say but as of late I have to take it as maybe or maybe not because most of the time it sounds like a broken record.

Just as you posted today. We are working the phones very very very hard.

Hell go to the juniours and get someone there is a lot of kids down there that want a shot. At least they could play most of their shifts.

I still believe that French has an ego problem and his chemistry with this team sucks. He is not a motivater or he would be showing it durring the games.

As for losing two home games, that does not bother me at all, I knew we would lose some but lets look at the team that went from first in the league overall to sixth in the league overall.

That same team is only 5 points ahead of Tulsa right now and losing ground.

All the rest of these teams have traded and "upgraded while we sat on our collective asses and let them pass us by.

Like it or not, look at the over all. You can post stats all you want about how great everything is but you know and I know that we are slipping down into that funnel and if something is not done pretty quick we will fall out of the playoffs with a big fat thud.

Where is the in your face, relentless pressure style of hockey that was talked about at the first of the year.

What happened to that mean, nasty gritty D-Man Lizzote (turttle boy)

Again we have been promised a bill board and were given a postage stamp, and nothing but bullshit since then.

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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:58 pm

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Oh and By the way I did not vote for you Chief

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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 9:00 pm

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Yeah Nicholson good player.

And no Fyr I dont know and you dont know that players are wanting out and asking to be traded? Did they tell you this? I doubt it. You would think the Thunder would know something about it! Believe every rumor you want, because you wont believe me anyway.

And I DID vote for me.

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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 9:00 pm

Mizer

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My 2 cents - having the best home record in the CHL means you don't lose at home, let alone two in a row. Five of the next seven games on the road and the Thunder have one of the worse road records in the league. Keep pointing blame at Frence but you should blame DUDA. As the leader on the ice, what has he done lately?

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 9:03 pm

Beamer

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I didn't vote for him either!

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 9:05 pm

FyrFytr86

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Cheif I believe you but sometimes it is very hard to. After so much crap to wade through you begin to wonder what is crap and what is for real.

Lets have lunch and we can get all this off our chest there instead of in this forum. If that will work I'll be at your office at noon Monday.

Or lets talk again after our next 7 games, 5 of which are on the road.

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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 9:06 pm

FyrFytr86

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The Chief Spin Doctor wrote:

Yeah Nicholson good player.

And no Fyr I dont know and you dont know that players are wanting out and asking to be traded? Did they tell you this? I doubt it. You would think the Thunder would know something about it! Believe every rumor you want, because you wont believe me anyway.

And I DID vote for me.

Nicholson may not be the best player but he would be better that we got out of everybody whipping Bain"s ass and the 2 shifts per game.

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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 9:06 pm

BBW

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Shit Beamer you cant count anyway??????????

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 9:07 pm

BT

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I only believe Joel when his mouth isn't moving. boxing Razz Bloos

And no, I didn't vote for anyone.... yet.

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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 9:09 pm

Beamer

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I think you have to blame the coaches. It's their job to put together a competitive team (And the Thunder are competitive). When things don't work, it's the coach that tweaks the lines and changes things up. It's his responsibility. Sure, the players have to perform but he's the guy that is supposed to have the right players in the right position. If the players aren't there, he's the guy that needs to find them by whatever means necessary. I've heard over and over that "We won't make a trade just to make a trade" or "We won't make a lateral move". If you ask me, there's some reasons to make a lateral move or a trade just to trade. It's not the players who make those decisions, it's the coach.

The Thunder are talented enough to be higher in the standings than what they are. I think we all would agree on that. That being the case, where does the blame go? Can we blame Joel? I personaly don't think so. It's not his job to put together a team. Presson? Nope. Not his job either. Who's job is it to recruit, tweak, and win?

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 9:10 pm

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Popcorn

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 9:13 pm

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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 9:15 pm

FyrFytr86

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Beamer wrote:

I think you have to blame the coaches. It's their job to put together a competitive team (And the Thunder are competitive). When things don't work, it's the coach that tweaks the lines and changes things up. It's his responsibility. Sure, the players have to perform but he's the guy that is supposed to have the right players in the right position. If the players aren't there, he's the guy that needs to find them by whatever means necessary. I've heard over and over that "We won't make a trade just to make a trade" or "We won't make a lateral move". If you ask me, there's some reasons to make a lateral move or a trade just to trade. It's not the players who make those decisions, it's the coach.

The Thunder are talented enough to be higher in the standings than what they are. I think we all would agree on that. That being the case, where does the blame go? Can we blame Joel? I personaly don't think so. It's not his job to put together a team. Presson? Nope. Not his job either. Who's job is it to recruit, tweak, and win?

I agree with you 100% Beamer, that being said I do not blame anyone but the coach and that is ultimately where the blame goes.

But I am so damn tired of hearing all the bullshit.

Chief and the rest of the front office swear we are doing fine. Look at the last 15 games home and away.

We were promised a tough in yoour face team and now the front office is in damage control mode because that is not what we have and they can't fix the problem.

I am glad about the attendance but you would think that if we can't win the game we could at the very least put on a good show for the crowd, instead of taking an asspumping all night long two nights in a row.

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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 9:19 pm

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FyrFytr86 wrote:

We were promised a tough in yoour face team and now the front office is in damage control mode because that is not what we have and they can't not fix the problem.

So they can fix the problem? Razz

Don't post angry. The words don't come out the way you want.

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